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Besides reading this article which happens to be 2 years old is still relevant today. A lot of the articles about BEV adoption is unrealistic nonsense that everyone will be switching away from gas/diesel combustion engine vehicles to battery electrics.

Without engines electric cars might be sputtering out

It may work in places like Norway where the population is only 5 million. In comparison the United States has over 300 million people. China’s EV sales only account for more than just 3% (figuring this info wasn’t easy and could be incorrect) but globally gasoline vehicles still account for over 95% of sales. The oil industry nearly collapsed and will more than likely have a nasty repercussion if gasoline vehicle sales drop in favor of battery electric. So even with looming bans of combustion engine vehicles the combustion engine vehicle sales will not only increase but continue to skyrocket as less public transportation is used for daily commutes due to the coronavirus outbreak. Not only that the oil industry will more than likely invest in combustion engine vehicles and potentially sell them cheaper than the dealer price will. Already Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge has accelerated production (before the coronavirus) so they were already prepared for a shutdown and pushed much of the inventory onto dealers. The dealerships were not happy but with extra inventory at hand they didn’t have to deal with the shutdowns of auto factories limiting the amount of vehicles being sold. But as factories are reopened the inventory levels should return to normal.

Auto sales are suffering especially for gas vehicles, but it’s to be expected when people don’t want to go outside. Some people and companies may think that electric vehicles are on the rise and the sales supposedly are not bad but they still haven’t surpassed gasoline vehicle sales. China sales overall really sunk as the outbreak was really bad there.

While over 95% of vehicle sales are going to gas (this includes hybrids) vehicles it isnt looking optimistic for electric vehicles and that wont change much, at least for the next several years. I still think the carpocalypse is still going to happen when countries try to ban combustion engine vehicles auto sales will be crushed. I mean if 1 out of every 1,000 is buying electric worldwide and that accounts to 50,000 electric out of 50,000,000 (this isnt accurate numbers) gasoline that’ll look more like 10,000 electric out of 50,000,000 gasoline sold. Eventually it’ll happen no matter what because most people wont even look at or touch a battery electric. When people go look at a car most of them dont even question the source of power. They go in and expect to buy a car that runs off of gas or diesel. This is why straight gas Honda Civics are still being sold despite having a hybrid battery option the majority still prefer straight gas.

You dont need to plug in a hybrid because the battery gets charged by the engine and brakes. Some are plug in hybrids but again most people wont consider a car they gotta plug in.

For now especially with public transportation commuters they will be buying an economical vehicle in which both Honda and Toyota offer gas and hybrids. So expect more Camry’s, Corolla’s, Civics and Accords being sold. The used market may dry up from many car buyers and will later on switch to new. It’s not easy finding a used Honda at the moment, though if you look hard enough you can find one. They’re just so good that new car buyers are still holding onto them. Either way except a ton of sedans being sold over the next couple of years.

So where does this leave the future of the car? No matter what people say or what governments will try and do electric cars wont sell a ton. They can fine the auto industry for not having electric vehicle sales but it doesn’t really matter. Battery electric vehicles are not practical. They can add recharge stations and put some chargers into residential areas but the truth is, they wont ever gain traction over the combustion engine vehicle. People wont buy a car you have to plug in. People wont buy one because they wont remember to plug it in. We’re used to going to a gas station to refuel and it refuels in minutes. When you forget to plug in an EV, it can take hours.

Electric vehicles are not the solution but an alternative energy source that’s 100% clean that’ll work in existing gasoline vehicles. That is far more practical and more than likely already underway by the oil industry. Eventually you can fuel a vehicle from home, it doesn’t have to be battery electric either. We all want clean air but it’s pointless to argue how or what to use to get there. It doesn’t even matter which is better because we worked with combustion engine vehicles for over 100 years and not one person has said, “well gee whiz, this car is so energy inefficient I wish I had a car that was far more efficient” because gasoline vehicles are energy efficient enough. You wont notice the difference other than that gas tank is smaller and lighter than any electric car battery. In fact I think electric car batteries are less efficient due to the weight/size of them. A Tesla weighs 5,000lbs while a Honda Civic only weighs under 3,000lbs. An extra 2,000lbs just for the battery. While some pony/muscle cars can weigh up to 4,500lbs its mostly due to the extra power/engine size. Other electric vehicles weigh roughly the same.

While electricity costs are low its because the demand generally is not there but in places where EVs are being driven, electric costs are going up. If EVs were replaced by gasoline vehicles today the electric cost would double and even triple. This is not just for EVs but you’ll be spending up to 3x to run any electric device at home. California already has electric costs at $0.31kW/h or higher. Illinois currently has $0.12kW/h. I shouldn’t have to pay more just so the people down the street can charge their vehicles. And I’m glad the neighbors dont have an electric car. I’ll be even more glad they wont consider  buying one. Because battery electric isnt the only clean renewable out there.

Hydrogen is the best bet, but i hope there is a better alternative to gas for the cars already on the road today. Because eventually we’ll have to abandon gas. It just should not be a car that you have to plug in to recharge it every night. Battery electric vehicles may be able to tow a lot but not for very long. Gas and diesel still has better towing range. Dont expect that Cybertruck from Tesla to get 100 miles towing a boat.

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So I got a friend who works for a used car dealer that has all kinds of used vehicles some of them happen to be electric cars. Usually people give up/trade their vehicles for 2 reasons. They want something different or there is a problem with the one they have so they opt to get rid of it. The Blur Book value puts a 2017 Nissan Leaf around $7,000 (that’s a huge loss from $35k). Comparing a Dodge Challenger which is only up to a $10k loss from $30-40k. My friend that works at the used dealer often will not follow Blue Book values and offer lower values for electric vehicles.

While the used dealer is pretty honest and doesn’t try to scam they really only offer around $2,000 for a used EV/trade in value. Cash offers are low as $500 for those trying to get rid of the vehicle. The dealer does look into the condition of the vehicle and usually will offer a little more but usually when someone is getting rid of their EV and buying gas its because the battery is on it’s way out or it was replaced then, the owner just wants to trade it in for a different vehicle and often will just go used due to the fact their vehicle investment resale value is so poor and they took a loss when investing in an electric vehicle only to find that the battery is no good. Sometimes they’ll just hold onto the vehicle anyways since it lost so much value already the value is just to drive it and get rid of it when the warranty expires, so they are not left with a dead vehicle in the driveway.

Here’s the takeaway, depending on the state or country the government forces automakers to have a warranty for these batteries up to 10 years or 200,000 miles.

They dont want to have to replace dead EV batteries and this often falls to the dealerships so they dont want to sell them. So they’ll leave them sit in the back of the lot and try to avoid selling them because they dont want to have to spend the money on a free battery replacement. They know that they will have to do this so they attempt to avoid selling you this car and it works both for the consumer and the dealer.

To replace a $10,000+ battery in an electric vehicle which by the way there is actually up to 8,000 batteries in an EV. So this adds to more failures, once one cell dies the others will follow.

So when you are losing range it’s those cells beginning to die one after another. Rather than trying to fix the bad cluster it’s better to replace the entire unit. Because otherwise the repair centers will be overwhelmed with warranty battery fixes every week! One cell dies you lose a little bit, but lose 100 within a week and you’ll lose something like a couple of miles and it keeps dwindling away.

And dealers dont want to buy whole new battery packs, who would being so ridiculously expensive. So they dont want to sell electric vehicles and in return this helps the consumer because why buy a vehicle that is a huge money pit. Of course dealers do like it when they gotta fix consumer vehicles but only when the consumer is the one paying for it. In the end though the gas vehicles have better resale value and the dealer offers a bigger payout so you get more value out of your purchases. It all depends on what you buy but you could buy a gas Honda Civic and it will provide value for a long time.

The problems of electric vehicles won’t go away and its because they are very limited by the costly repairs of a battery and the small return investment of them.

EV enthusiasts will deny this and often say the batteries will last them 10+ years. I heard some guy said they’ll last 20 years. Tesla claims 12-15 years. Except these vehicles have only been around since 6-7 years so its unlikely they would be telling the truth that their batteries last beyond 6 years. Tesla offers 8 year warranties on their batteries but then they charge much more for their vehicles and apparently there are plenty of rich suckers who will pay. Tesla batteries are also around $20,000 so its likely they are better built  but it’s also unlikely the batteries will work beyond 10 years. In reality lithium ion batteries only last 2-3years. So it’s unlikely they’ll last much longer than 5 years. These people want to put you into an electric vehicle and dont really care about how much they cost people. Theyll even claim less maintenance costs. Sure no oil changes or high refueling costs but they won’t tell you that the hidden cost is a new battery or a new vehicle. Since people are willing to buy a new car every year, they’ll do 5 year loans trying to push more people into a never ending loan payment so they dont get any value in their vehicles period. Just pay $500 for your car up until the day you pass away. This way the government can keep people from holding onto the same vehicle for over 10 years. Battery dies, just buy a new vehicle.

This also helps generate more tax revenue by new vehicles being sold more often. The green push is really about the dollar signs and the only thing the politicians see is more taxpayer money.

Save your money and buy a gas vehicle. Wait for hydrogen, it will be far better and more cost effective. Because saving money at the pump and oil changes won’t stop you from spending more money in replacing the batteries or the car itself every 5 years.

Hydrogen doesn’t have the issues that a battery has and batteries are not efficient let alone cost effective. Hydrogen would work better with being able to use a combustion engine (diesel engines would work well) as they are already being used today. The cost needs to go down before this is put into place. Eventually within a decade or two we’ll see hydrogen around and it’ll be the true successor to gasoline.

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With all the SuperBowl car ads trying very hard to kill the combustion vehicles and now the UK wants to ban petrol and diesel vehicles by 2035 all being driven by greed and well Greta Thunberg as well.

Well the solution is stop listening to the hype and just buy a gas or diesel vehicle. The more combustion vehicles that are sold the harder it will be for politicians to try to ban them. I mean if people are refusing to buy battery electric vehicles then even if they tried to ban the combustion engine a lot of dealerships, car manufacturers, motorists and hopefully lawyers will immediately push back on these bans and even the ‘carbon tax’  laws that are trying to be pushed. It’ll take about until the 2030s before hydrogen makes it way to the market and even then you got to give some time for the market and consumers to adjust to the idea.

However we do not want BEVs to replace gasoline. We still have 80 years of fuel/oil left so that gives us way more time to switch over.

Basically though there is this evil at work trying to destabilize our economy and all you hear is “BEVs will create new jobs” all the while over a half of the automotive workforce will become unemployed. Some people who spent half of their lives nearly saving up for retirement gets booted at 50 years old because there are no more car parts to be made for combustion engine vehicles. He has nowhere to go, he’s unemployed. That’s what this shift is trying to do and there has to be something in order to prevent or protect the millions of workers for combustion vehicle production. We have to consider the ramifications for this extreme push. The very first automobile wasnt at all to detract the horse and buggy. Even through the 30 or 40 years of improving upon the internal combustion engine people still were able to use a horse and buggy and any decline, well future generations went and sold cars instead of horse and buggies. In time too the combustion engine vehicles will eventually fade away as newer technologies advances but in reality were talking around 2050 by the time alternative fuels are put into play.

I reiterate that BEVs are not there yet. And even then hydrogen fuel cells are on the rise. Again this is several decades away and it’ll take several more decades before they completely replace gasoline. Even then some people may still want to drive gasoline and zero emissions isnt possible. This is a fantasy because majority of the emissions is from natural occurrences. Much of the emissions is due to our extremely wasteful manufacturing processes and the shipping of them. Airplanes put out a considerably amount of emissions. Why are we concerned about gas vehicles. Because of tailpipe emissions. People think this is a primary source of the emissions we are polluting the planet with but that’s not the case.

Either way it doesnt make it right to force people off of vehicles they are already accustomed to and find it to be more beneficial/cost effective than the newer technology.

Bottom line, wanna stick with gas vehicles longer or do not want to buy or get involved with a BEV, BUY A GAS CAR! (I’m not yelling lol) So even if it’s not banned start working up a budget and see, maybe you can afford a newer vehicle. Shop around. Should be done at least once every 5 years but if you can do it earlier then do it. Only if its within your budget. You can then keep doing this and upgrading to a newer vehicle that you may like even more. Figure out if you want to lease. Maybe you want a second vehicle. I use a car for winter and another for summer. Maybe you want a fun vehicle that you want to baby in the garage and take it out for nice sunny days. If its within your budget go for it. Even if it’s not, budget for it. I liked the idea of driving the same vehicle for years on end but it would be sort of nice to have a newer vehicle every 2-5 years. It also depends on my budget but I need to do this so I dont ever have to drive a BEV because i refuse to even touch one. And it’s not that they are completely terrible it’s the fact people are trying to force them on everyone. That isnt right so I refuse to buy one. I especially wouldn’t buy a used one considering how long the batteries may last.

Bottom line is wait for hydrogen. When that makes its way to the market I can see buying one of those but I certainly hope gas vehicles will continue to thrive for at least another 25 years. And it should die out naturally so that it doesnt displace so many hard working people around the world. This economy is driven by combustion engine vehicles and a good chunk of the workforce would be unemployed making the great depression look like a slow month. Letting it gradually fade will allow companies more time to let their employees know that eventually the plant has to close. Unfortunately it moves too quickly sometimes. Either way stick to gas vehicles if you can and also if its within your budget buy a new vehicle every once in awhile. Maybe car shopping will excite your life a bit.

I thought driving this Grand Am, I wouldn’t want to buy anything new but the new Challenger is far more exciting than a Grand Am, even though the Challenger is 6 cylinders its still fun. Anyway if you think you’re in the market for a new car good luck and  check out Enterprise Car Sales, they might have the car you want cheap enough. They’ll even put in a sunroof. So despite the fact EVs are being pushed, if enough gas vehicles are being bought they can’t really ban gas vehicles. It would put automakers out of business. Because once everyone has a new vehicle just before a banned time, no one would really buy a new vehicle forcing the ban to be rescinded. This may or may not work for the UK but it’s a good start.

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Electric Vehicle Sales Fall Despite A Proliferation Of New Models

People however are buying Tesla’s but that may change as the cheapest model is around $35k Tesla is a luxury brand. The iconic Honda Civic sold more than Tesla did so despite they’re doing well they are only doing well because they charge up to 3x as much as a major manufacturer. The only reason Tesla did so well in the U.S. is the subsidies came to an end this year.  So chances are the sales in the U.S. will continue to drop. For other countries depending on how quickly they intend to ban fossil fuels they may sell for awhile, at least if until the batteries start to fail. Even though some major manufacturers are trying to move their vehicle fleets to all battery electric its unlikely they will be selling many. When someone paid $40+ on a new type of vehicle and they either won’t be able to sell it due to the batteries dying or because they failed before they didn’t have it long enough to warrant selling it they’ll lose a ton of money on a vehicle that lasts only 10 years.

You ever buy a car and wonder why stuff starts breaking randomly and you thought you took well care of it, kept it in the garage and what not. Well that’s just age. Things may just break because the materials get too old. You can extend the plastic for instance by keeping it looking shiny by detailing it. You can’t do that with a battery. They just degrade with age. There isnt a thing you can do to change that. The heat and cold accelerate that because of the thermal expansion and contraction of the materials. Batteries are unable to cope with that. So I’d just wait and see what happens. All these people buying Tesla’s or any other EV may be in for a big surprise when they wake up one morning and their vehicles only go a few miles before the voltage drops due to battery degradation. Its inevitable, I could be wrong but then again batteries don’t last a long time.

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Oh no not another electric vehicle post. Sorry, not sorry but with this extreme push for battery electric vehicles or BEVs I have to show the negative sides of them and why its best to wait around for hydrogen fuel cells.

 

1. Limited range

Batteries can only store so much energy and even with the advances the more range you’re looking for the more expensive they’ll be. A Tesla model 3 costs around $40k when you factor taxes, charging equipment and hire an electrician to get the most out of recharging. But let’s face it, for $20k I can get more range out of a muscle car.


2. Recharging time

Even though you may charge at home and ‘wake up every morning with a full tank’ it still takes time to charge and our electric grid is unreliable at best. You will be waking up one day without power and your 220 mile Tesla is now a 50 mile range vehicle with no place to charge because well.. no power. Most gas stations will have a backup generator allowing motorists to continue driving around. But you are stuck with a 50 mile driving range. Doesnt work if you daily drive more than 20 miles, even if you do manage to make it into work you will still need a recharge. Imagine having to wait hours and hours in a public charging station because everyone else who owns a Tesla or other EV will be waiting in line because they lost power. Either that or they traveled too far and need a recharge. A minimum  of 30 minutes for an EV or a 5 minute refueling time for gasoline those who drive gas will not generally be affected by power loss, unless the gas station you went to doesnt have a backup generator… it’s best to ask.

 

3. Range is limited in the cold

My friend had a Tesla with a 300 mile range. When it was 20F he woke up to a half charge with a range of 100 miles. He thought well, I only work 20 miles away it’ll be fine. It was fine driving into work but upon driving home from work he got about 5 miles before the Tesla quit on him. He got rid of it and bought a Honda. 🤣😂

The cold is bad on lithium ion batteries. They don’t like the heat and they certainly dont like the cold. Adverse temperatures is bad for any battery, this is why you need to have your gas vehicle battery checked out every year, especially at winter time they can be an issue, in very cold weather. Stop and go driving is generally harder on them but using a battery electric car on the highway, that range doesnt come back because the car is doing everything it can to generate heat, however driving 60+ mph it takes longer for it to heat up so that heat is often wasted by that cold wind.

Gas cars are not impervious to cold weather either but well maintained gas vehicles will operate better in cold climates. Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are the best in cold weather. Another reason why we need more of these vehicles.

 

4. The electric grid won’t handle a BEV takeover

You know I read in the Chicago Tribune that best charging times will be after 2:00A.M. I leave for work by 3:30A.M. there is no way it’ll finish charging by the time I have to leave for work. Even then this is another inconvenience, you gotta charge on their rules, not when it’s convenient for you. Not everyone has the same routines and here again, the recharge time and power reliability. You can gas up your vehicle any time you need to but charging is different. Sure you can charge anytime you want, but you won’t get the best rates. And when this happens rates for electricity will still go up when too many are plugging in. We bought energy efficient appliances because we wanted to save money on electricity but not only that its because the grid is taxed by energy draining devices.

 

5. Lithium ion materials are not easy to get

Even with all these BEVs coming out, there is a lithium ion supply shortage. We dont have a reliable supply, like gas it’s a finite resource. And when resources become scarce the prices go up. If you need a replacement battery and you sold your gas clunker for a shiny EV but the battery died, well who’s to say they’ll have a replacement on standby for you. If all their loaner vehicles are in use, you may be stuck paying for a $35 daily rental for however long. Could be a week or it could be months. In reality, you’re better off sticking to a gas vehicle. You may need a replacement engine or transmission which isnt that common, at least they have the parts needed to get you back on the road as quickly as possible. May take a few days to a week but that’s nothing compared to how long people had to wait for a replacement Tesla part.

 

6. How long will that battery last? The cost of owning a BEV

I don’t know. Often times they’ll say it’ll get 300k easy but when gas vehicles get that much and more you want to think more in terms of, how many years will the batteries last. Currently you can get 30+ years out of a Honda or Toyota.. basically any well built vehicle will last you if you keep up on the preventative maintenance. Regular oil and other fluid changes are needed for your vehicle’s survival. Fresh fluids equals a happy vehicle that will take care of your transportation needs but also regular checkups and taking it easy on the gas when you dont really need all that horsepower going. Leave it for the highway ramps.

Anyways the only real ways to treat a battery right on these EVs is charge it only to 80% and leave 30% left. Not exactly leaving you with much range there, along with the cold you’re just not going anywhere fast. Ideally you want a garage but if you park on the street or in an apartment complex that just isnt possible. The same with being at work, you have to leave the vehicle outside. Adverse weather will degrade the batteries. I can’t even keep all my cars in a garage. Let alone they are parked outside at work for 10 hours. BEVs just wouldn’t work.

But at the most I’ve seen a battery last is 10 years. But most of them last 3-7 years depending on various reasons I wont get into but somehow EVs could top all those batteries? The cost alone wouldn’t be worth it seeing as it would take in my case, 10 years before seeing savings from driving a BEV.

Even if the batteries were to die in 12 years or so, it’s still not worth it. Batteries are another environmental concern and the fact that eventually we will have to dispose of them. Regardless if there was a 2nd application for them. What happens when they are no longer usable?

I dont know either but the oldest BEV battery I know of is at least 8 years old. It’s only a matter of time before we find out the cutoff point and I’m not willing to risk a battery dying 8 years down the road and your warranty has expired. Non Tesla batteries are more prone to failure but eventually even Tesla batteries will drop like an anchor. Right now its the tipping point for these batteries. Will they last longer than 10 years or will they all start to die out after the warranty has ended. This will definitely create major problems for anyone who owns a BEV.

By the time these batteries start to fizzle out, hydrogen should be around the corner. There are hybrids as well but the batteries don’t really last in those vehicles and it’s a gamble whether the vehicle will function adequately when the battery no longer holds a charge. In my opinion buy a Honda or Toyota if you want to spend the least amount of money. Those vehicles last forever and get pretty good gas mileage. Wait for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and ignore the BEV evangelists. They really are not helping and neither is the government that is trying very hard to get people to buy an expensive piece of battery powered machinery with no telling how long they’ll last. They very well could end up being a financial nightmare for the owners if that battery one day will just quit. And that will happen eventually.

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Hydrogen fuel cell technology has dropped (or will drop) in price making it much better to succeed. Ok first off, I’m not trying to say that electric isn’t the future with vehicles, nor am I saying we should stick with gas vehicles indefinitely. I would like a cleaner vehicle but battery powered.. not so much. Now that’s out of the way hydrogen fuel cells are similar to gas in the range and refueling (only takes 5 minutes to refuel a hydrogen vehicle) without the adverse affects of lost range especially in the cold.

Battery electric has an issue with the  cold and they lose up to 50% of the capacity. Doesnt help when range is only around 220 miles or less. The more expensive models get up to 325 miles. Sure you can charge in 30 minutes or so but you’ll be waiting awhile for it to finish charging. It doesnt do well when there are other people waiting in line.

The fact is, battery electric vehicles are not ready yet, no matter what people are saying. You have to make changes in order to make them work. In today’s society where everyone is already in a rush waiting for your vehicle to charge is going to make things worse. Even if you charge at home the limited range will eventually catch up and you’ll realize that 200 mile range wont be enough. Again some people are willing to sacrifice their time to do this others won’t.

The other problem is the battery lifespan. If you can get 20 or more years out of a gasoline vehicle (especially the way prices are for new vehicles its the best option) then you’d get your money’s worth provided you kept up on the preventative maintenance and did not have so many problems with the vehicle during its use. Most cars need constant attention and having a mechanic look it over every 3 months is ideal. You would have to check the fluids once a month including watching for leaks. By the time you start saving money on an EV chances are that EV may be 8-10 years old already. Not exactly saving any money here if you are having to replace the battery.

There isnt any evidence yet suggesting that EV batteries will last for more than 10 years because they haven’t been around for very long. It’s really a gamble seeing the average lifespan of a battery. The average gas car lifespan is around 11 years but they would last longer if people just changed the fluids on time. You can make a gas car last 20 years or longer. The only thing is rust. You have to make sure to rust proof them. Wash and wax them, use the undercarriage spray and also check out autobody shops and see what they offer for rust proofing. The one I take it to you end up having to replace every 2-4 years because its Fluid Film that either dissolves over time or over the salt or water. And it costs $200-400 depending on the vehicle.

I’m getting off topic here but you get the general idea here. The same rustproofing methods could be applied to an electric car but again how long will the batteries last. This is why BEVs should stay in the niche market until tests have been verified on how long do battery EVs last. They can cost anywhere from $5k to $17k. The cheaper ones may not last very long and you’ll have to do the math to see when you start saving money. Also electric rates are not fixed so they can go up as well. The last thing we need is to pay more to run our appliances. We bought energy saving appliances not only to pay less each month but because our electric grid can’t handle a whole lot.

This is probably my 5th or 6th post on BEVs and while they are pretty much anti electric they are just not there yet with the technology yet. It is far better to wait for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles as they’ll be far better in the long run. Fast refueling, long range similar to gas and no loss of range or major problems in the cold. The argument of you dont need long range, and you’ll charge at home is just not sound arguments when eventually you’ll have to use a charging station and it could be packed where you’ll be waiting longer for a charge than you will at a gas station.

If you still want a BEV that’s fine but dont let anyone tell you, you should buy them because of low cost or that they are better for the environment because your just moving the tailpipe emissions to somewhere else. Our infrastructure isnt at all green and it wont happen overnight. Really environmentalists should focus on getting our oceans and water sources clean. Not worry over what kind of cars people drive because gas vehicles are more efficient and clean than ever before. Let’s wait for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles to work their magic. We may see them in a couple of decades. Even if naysayers think HFC isn’t, they are coming sooner than you think.

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Unless you haven’t been paying attention, climate change hysteria fueled by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Greta Thunberg along with politicians across the world has been freaking some people out over climate change fears, like if we don’t stop burning fossil fuels we’ll be on fire, or under an ocean… or California will end up in an ice age. One of the biggest things right now is that internal combustion engine vehicles that run on gas and coal is under fire right now for existing.

The problem is, there is no climate crisis caused by vehicle emissions. Climate change has been happening since the dawn of time and continues to change. Droughts, forest fires and temperature changes isn’t something new, nor caused by vehicle emissions. Its nature.

Nature also corrects human mistakes, such as the fires in Australia which was man made and since a lot of animals were killed in the fire and some of the forest has been lost a huge rain bomb occurred. The planet corrected itself by making it rain. Arsonists was to blame for the fires, it didn’t help that the forest was dry enough for the fires to get out of control. The planet is fine, it’s the people we need to worry about because right now people have schemed up this idea that we are causing all the bad weather in the world and we need to switch to cleaner energy and abandon our use of fossil fuels. The problem is, everything uses fossil fuels. So switching to electric vehicles is like a drop in the ocean compared to the mass amount of production around the world. It doesnt do anything when coal is worse but coal plants do burn cleaner than they did when they first were around.

The biggest push is electric vehicles right now. Major manufacturers are starting to build them however a lack of materials for the batteries isnt making mass production possible. The long recharge times and lack of range especially in the cold are 2 major problems of EVs and even then the longevity of the batteries and electric motors is another story as they’re expensive to replace. It’s not cheap to replace a gas engine or transmission either but sometimes its cheaper to repair them. Repairing a blown head gasket vs an engine rebuild is a no brainer. Just got to have around $1,000 to make that happen vs a $4,000 engine rebuild. But electric car motors run about $3,000 per wheel and EV batteries are higher than $5,000. It makes no sense to invest in electric cars. Especially since the batteries are holding these cars from getting more mainstream. People talk about them but most don’t want one. Hydrogen is another energy but so far its supposedly inefficient, but would be far better than gas and with some modifications hydrogen could be used in current gasoline vehicles, making it a much more practical use of our technology. EVs are a stop gap and its most likely they won’t be around for much longer when the amount of EVs being sold is dwarfed by gasoline vehicles. While some countries are getting mostly EVs those are smaller countries.. even California has a small amount of EV market share. They want to ban gasoline vehicles but its unlikely in the event many people will be upset and the ban may never take hold. Not to mention bigger cars can’t handle range as good and towing reduces the charge level to about 30 minutes. Doubtful we’ll see many electric trucks in the future even though they’re trying to make them, they just won’t be practical for towing.

So bottom line is gas is here to stay for awhile at least until 2040 when they try to ban gasoline vehicles and may succeed if EVs get their way and have better range and short recharge times. Then theres the longevity factor. I would recommend sticking with gas or at the very least a hybrid. At least you can save some money on gas and not have to worry about polluting as much. Even Dodge is trying an electric torque assist to reduce gas consumption. Don’t buy into this EV insanity because it most likely won’t happen for quite a while at least.

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Optimists have been wrong about EV adoption as predictions have been set too high. EV sales only account for around 1% in the U.S. and majority of it is Tesla model 3 in California. After seeing the 5 hour Tesla pileup at a supercharger station I’m sure a few of the owners have gotten rid of them. Of course some of them are loyal to a fault and this isn’t really good especially when EVs have a set of problems.

In Chicago there are a couple charging outlets for apartment dwellers but having 2 outlets is not good for those who want to wake up to a full charge and since some of them have time limits its going to be difficult for those who may be on vacation and want to come back to a full charge. It may be difficult for those who are thinking of buying one and worry about having access to them. Then there is the cost to install a charger for these EVs. It affects rent and will bring the rent fee up. That depends whether it effects all the residents or those who only choose to buy one, however I would be looking for an apartment that doesn’t have this extra cost as others will because who wants to pay more for rent for stuff they wont ever use.

So despite there could be a charger for an EV at one apartment, if you decide to move you may not get the ability to charge and will end up going back to gas.

And if it was as easy to have an outlet more apartments would include them for engine block heaters or battery chargers for gasoline vehicles. In my experience though, the 10 or so apartments I’ve lived at didn’t have outlets for cars. Neither I saw the 20 or 30 either. Living in the Midwest having an engine block heater would be nice and again, car companies would have made these engine block heaters standard so the vehicles are already ready to go with the cabin heater pumping out heat within a minute. But this never happened. Its only if you have access to a plug is where you are able to ask for an engine block heater and again most vehicles I seen dont have them. Its always been an option most likely an aftermarket piece that was probably more for diesel engines than gasoline. If you see a plug like an extension cord sticking out the front grill, that’s generally for an engine block heater that’s just sitting there.

So with this in mind, no.. power outlets won’t be in every parking space, nor will they exist in many apartment/condos or for street parking. Even if one apartment does add more charging spots, its only if the demand is there. It’s unlikely that will happen seeing as many will continue buying gas vehicles.

The argument is, gasoline vehicles ran into the same problems. Not enough gas stations. People didnt change over from horse and carriage overnight. Even then you just drove where there was a gas station. It was also easy to build gas stations as well due to the vast amount of places to put them. And if you needed to go somewhere where there wasn’t a gas station you took a horse. And who knows, the range on the early cars could have been all you needed. Driving more than 20 miles in may have seemed silly back then. Now people go over 500 miles on a trip. But the transition from gas to electric may take far longer or it may not happen at all. Its dependent on every parking space at home to have a charging outlet and that’s unlikely, especially when someone can come along and unplug it while you are trying to wake up to a full charge, people will do something like this and cause mayhem for many motorists. Charging an EV can take over 30 minutes and wouldn’t work when the convenience of having a 5 minute refuel time on a gas vehicle. So even if there was charging outlets at home it would still make sense to have faster recharge times which would reduce the lifespan of the batteries. Cold climates is another problem as you lose 40% of your charge due to heating the cabin and keeping the battery warm. This also doesnt work for apartment renters. Those 2 outlets will be a fight if 3 or more people want to keep their batteries charging overnight forcing the landlord to consider adding more charging stations driving up renting even higher depending on whether they make all residents pay or just the EV owners. In turn I recommend people who are looking for apartments to avoid the apartments that have charging stations as they might be paying more rent for something they’ll never use.

2019 had very lacking EV sales. There are claims that pre orders for the new Tesla truck and other EVs in the works are selling out. Seems like a selling point to me as car companies can boast about preorder sales when the product hasn’t even been completed as the sale has not been completed. That 50k or so pre orders can end up as 5k. Or it can be 100k. Pre orders is not actual sales.

Also looking at actual used EV inventories most used EVs are either EVs from 2012 or the used Teslas that is still $50k too high. Seeing how its mostly Teslas out on the road, eventually those high resale values is going to drop like a bowling ball. So while city mandates could force apartment owners to install charging outlets the demand may remain small as you can move to another city that doesnt have charging outlets available. In effect people will not gamble they will have the ability to charge everywhere. No matter what some EV enthusiasts say, there isnt charging outlets in every apartment. If you park your vehicle at home and dont see an outlet you’re not going to consider getting an EV. Even if they were to be standard it’s unlikely you’ll still consider one if you are not in the market buying one.

The government, EV enthusiasts and environmentalists all would like to force people to buy one and not let the free market decide and if it was total free market, electric vehicles wouldn’t stand a chance which is why the extreme push for them. That wont work either, not unless EVs exceed everything a gasoline vehicle can and its unlikely that will happen until the 2040s and even then there at least will be another 20 years before they would dominate roads. Unless of course we allow politicians to get in the way of allowing people to drive gas cars freely and tax free. Bottom line is the future is bleak if people get their way and force everyone onto EVs.

For me, Honda and Toyota gas vehicles are proven. They’re not broken and last forever on the orginal drivetrain (usually, anyways) so I dont see any need to replace them with batteries.

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As if the fire hazard for EVs wasn’t bad enough we got Teslas with bad wheels…

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Seems scary right, well herehere’s more in a flicker collection, Tesla – Whompy Wheels

Go ahead and look, I’ll wait…

It seems like Teslas are just unsafe period. With the model 3 out it’ll be interesting what could be wrong with it, oh by the way..

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It’s kind of hard to see but you’d notice it right away if you seen it up close in person. The picture doesn’t really show it, well it does but it doesn’t show the other side which is claimed to be perfect.  It’s just another thing wrong with Teslas and why people should avoid them.

Tesla recently announced that they are going online only and that’s not good for a company that can’t even keep up demand like other auto companies can do. With the Tesla 3 out for a couple of weeks, the fanatics only had a theory on how much were sold or preordered which is like 500-1,000.

Unlike Ford which usually has vehicles ready to be sold in auto dealerships sold out the Ford Ranger within 2 weeks, The New Ford Ranger Is in Crazy Demand up to 300,000 people are interested in the 2019 Ranger and while it’s possible that like the article says, people can bail out at any time but already they’re being sold quite well,

Ford Ranger U.S. Sales
January: 2,153
Febuary: 2,899
Total: 5,052

That’s pretty impressive. It’ll be interesting how many will sell through the year but it’s already a strong beginning and that’s just for the U.S.

I was already considering one and since they got a diesel version, that’s even better, though it may be awhile I hope to find a used one that has been well taken care of. Anyway in comparison to Tesla, Tesla pushes delivery timeline for new standard Model 3 orders as demand soars “550 vehicles in about 2 days”
In 2 days isn’t bad but to say 5,000+ orders happened by Elektrek is a bit premature. You also have to remember that this model 3 started later and the reliability factor has been pretty bad for Tesla so they could have pushed back the timeline for better quality and oh there’s less workers as Tesla is downsizing so a month could mean 700 vehicles have been purchased but it’ll take that long to make them. Either way we need actual sale numbers, not predictions. The fact any EV sells 5k units in a month is a bit premature and these EV enthusiasts will try to make it sound like Tesla is doing well.

In fact CR has dropped Tesla 3 as reliable, Tesla Model 3 Loses CR Recommendation Over Reliability Issues

The fact is there really is no reliable Tesla. There are problems with them, as shown above and while they may sell quite a few units, if they do rush them out these problems will become worse. So I don’t believe that 5k+ will sell within a month, even though it’s already March most of these sales would most likely be from Tesla fanatics who want to see Tesla survive even though they can’t make a quality vehicle. This is expected with a major automotive company that produces an abundance of vehicles that need to meet the needs of millions of consumers a year. It’s normal to have defects but you don’t normally see a Camaro lose it’s wheels and the paint job is always superb. If not they’ll bend over backwards for you to get satisfaction out of your brand new vehicle, usually anyway. Bottom line is we’ll have to wait and see on actual numbers. While Tesla may have sold a lot of units 4th quarter, 60k units sold 4th quarter that’s abysmal for any automotive company. Dodge Challenger sales for an example is pretty low in general but Dodge cares about performance over sales and it may pick up a little before they release their hybrid models.

Honda for an example, Honda sales collapse should be worrisome from the company and its possible it’s less due to people shifting to larger vehicles and sales of EVs and performance vehicles are part of the lack of sales. It might change then it might not. All I know is anytime I think of Tesla I see this,

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And I have to say Teslas are just no good, overpriced junk. Here are some reasons not to buy a Tesla or EVs in general.

Reason #1: The lithium ion batteries.

1. If the batteries overheat they become very dangerous. It’s only a matter of time before they start exploding due to faulty engineering or just that something stops working correctly or someone decides to try to DIY or modify a Tesla or other EV they’ll end up in an explosive fire.

2. Recharge time still takes too long and it’ll take you more time to find a charging station than it is to find a gas station to refuel a gas vehicle. A lack of garages also makes it difficult to charge overnight. A family with multiple vehicles, or you just have more than what your garage can take, recharging can be difficult and its both tacky and dangerous to run an extension cord.

3. Lifespan claims to be 500k or 20 years but real world averages need to come into play and it’ll be another 15-20 years to get proper results.

4. Lithium ion technology isn’t easy to mine or produce. Child labor for lithium mines is a problem and could get worse as demands for lithium will increase. The price will also go up.

5. They don’t like the cold, you lose over 40% of power in 20F or lower. Generally the lower the temp the less charge you have. Sure you can do some tricks and leave the thing plugged in but it uses more power and it will prematurely wear out the heater in your car. Most likely will end up not having heat on the worst day.

6. Batteries make used EVs more difficult to sell, the cost to replace one is over $10,000. Who would buy one even if it’s fairly cheap when they’ll have to fork out money that could go towards a good $10k Gas vehicle.

Reason #2: Reliability and longevity.

It just doesn’t seem like Tesla can get their reliability up and this was already mentioned in this article. Whether major automotive EVs such as GM will have reliable vehicles will be interesting but should avoid at all costs. The Nissan Leaf has terrible battery life and you’ll be replacing it in 10 years, maybe less. Frustrated buyers will go back to gas.

Batteries have a finite lifespan so it’s not the same as a gas vehicle engine that can potentially last 100 years if properly stored. It’s also difficult to find a recharging station so you have to drive around to find one. Not everyone has a garage capable of recharging an EV. Also you lose up to 40% of power in the cold climates. You could leave it plugged in with the heater running but as I said above, your heater will die unexpectedly. Gas vehicles you just start, let it warm up for a few and your ready to go. A full tank of gas won’t lose 40% overnight.

Reason #3: Resale value.

Resale value will continue to be extremely low and some like Teslas may be high but most people who buy preowned/used vehicles don’t have a garage. It takes certain dedication to wait hours for your EV to recharge, something that most people don’t have time for. So these vehicles will sit and deteriorate in used dealership lots. I doubt even the most dedicated Tesla fanboys will buy them when no one else will. It’s just financial stupidity.

Either way resale values for EVs will either continue to be extremely low or will plummet because used dealerships won’t sell them. While there is no real world data on this I talked to a few local used dealers who keep a few EVs in the back of the lot if anyone wants them but they dont sell so they get rid of most of the trade in EVs. No point in keeping them if they won’t sell. Used dealer won’t give you a whole lot and the depreciation of an EV after even several years is over 75% of lost value. Just imagine a 10 year old EV. It would be worth the same as a 30 year old gas vehicle.

Reason #4: You need electricity to recharge.

I don’t want a vehicle that uses the same power source as my fridge. Electricity costs are low and I like it that way. Mass EV usage will increase electrical loads and will artificially raising the price of electricity. Sure it’s cheap now and its cheaper than filling your tank up with gas but as demand goes up so will costs. Already companies are being coaxed into switching to more efficient lighting and raise up the temps of air conditioners so it runs less often. So we already are sacrificing comfort in the name of EVs. Pretty soon we’ll be told to turn off air conditioners throughout the day and limit our tv watching. Or we can stick with gasoline vehicles.


Reason #5: The future is not determined yet.

If you still haven’t been deterred from buying an EV yet consider the fact that electrical vehicles may not be the future. It hasn’t made a dent in vehicle ownership and will remain low for many years to come. In 10 or 20 years they may come out with a 0% emissions gas vehicle and find alternative fuels. A combustion engine is still far from total extinction and we may have them for years to come. Whether they are run on gas or some synthetic fuel they are still here to stay.

Lots of issues with EVs from unknown battery longevity, if many of them stay parked for years we’ll find out if they last 15 years or 50 years. Some batteries in EVs and hybrids have already needed replacing so it’s doubtful they’ll last even 25 years. Internal combustion engines have a 100 year lifespan. Of course usage is a factor and will reduce the life of that engine everytime you drive it to the store or drive 30 miles to work. But bottom line is they are proven. EVs still have to prove themselves.

They catch fire if punctured, the cold climates reduce range and power output by 40%, lack of overnight charging for many and the resale value is what is keeping most from buying one. I have the money and the means to buy one, however I don’t want one for the above reasons. I am familiar with lithium ion technology and I don’t trust them to power my car. I don’t want an unreliable Tesla with crappy paint jobs and terrible suspension and handling components. Not to mention the price and the lack of range when cold and I don’t want to wear out my heater by leaving it run all night causing the electric bill to go up higher. I like the low cost of electricity. I don’t have to worry about how much electricity im using by watching tv or how many times I open my garage door. Mass EV adoption would change that.

Also lack of maintence of a mass EV adoption will lessen jobs all over the globe. It’s already happening with GM closing factories. Those people lost their jobs most likely due to a few thousand EV adopters. I don’t know this information first hand but it’s a little interesting that an EV adoption rate will lower sales of the Chevy Cruze.

So with this in mind, just avoid aknd ignore EVs for now. It hasn’t become the future, considering you can still buy gas cars I’d focus on that. While Teslas model 3 might sell those sales will drop once the fanboys get their fix.

Edit: One thing I forgot to add, Tesla crashes into river, owner claims it accelerated on its own
I wouldn’t be surprised if this really did happen, but it’s hard to say whether the Teslas do accelerated out of control. It might be a good idea to avoid them for now. Most Tesla owners wouldn’t be lying about it though, most of them are Tesla fanboys who would still say Teslas are great cars. To say it accelerated out of control shows that maybe there is a problem with them. Whatever it is, it doesn’t matter wheels falling off and exploding batteries are enough to keep away from them, EVs from major manufacturers are just cheap and I wouldn’t buy one. Once the craze ends and there is not a chance for EVs to take over the U.S. then maybe if they were under $500. I probably wouldn’t keep one for long though.

Actually not, this guy had his foot off of the pedal and the Tesla software for the car claims he had hit the gas when the driver claimed he didnt, Sudden Unintended Acceleration – Forum the computer must have been falsely detecting pedal movement. I don’t trust EVs even more now. It sounds like to me that Tesla doesn’t even care if it was a software glitch. Either way something is off with this. It may just be the soft braking of these vehicles are not completely safe. At this point I really don’t want an EV and I don’t recommend them.

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Remember when I wrote about how EVs or electric vehicles are not the future? Yeah well more car makers are investing a lot of money in being optimistic about EV adoption. A few countries have heavily invested in replacing gas with EVs. California is pushing EVs but isn’t exactly pushing when much of the state already would embrace this newish technology and Colorado wants to do the same.

Illinois governor JB Pritzker recently signed off on the Paris Accords so now Illinois has to reduce its carbon emissions by 28% and that deadline is 2025. That means reducing the amount of gas vehicles and coal plants.

Now I’m all for cleaner energy but not at the expense of spending more money, or affecting what I can or cannot buy. I don’t know what will actually happen because really this carbon reduction goal is way out of reach. Especially when many people already purchased a new vehicle.

And I’m looking to buy a new car but still not enough money saved and most likely won’t have it until 2021. Between now and 2021 this gives this dumb governor enough time to come up with moronic laws or regulations pertaining to what kind of vehicles you can get. In which I hope not because I’m looking for a new Dodge Challenger. Yes, but the V6 option which has more than enough horsepower to drive during the summer. Hopefully by then I’ll have some way to fix the rust underneath my aging Grand Am that I want to keep on the road for awhile at least until I can get a truck or SUV. The Grand Am will be for winter driving and eventually be retired in a barn somewhere so when I’m an old geezer I can still take the car out to drive if I want some nostalgia. Most people wouldn’t hold onto their vehicles for very long and generally because they don’t take extra care with them. That’s another subject matter though.

I don’t know where this JB Pritzker guy is making Illinois heading towards but with a couple of states already pushing EVs out and 11 other states considering this, I worry what’s going to happen. I’m a firm believer in people spending the money they earn on what they want and need. A car can be both, you need one and you might as well buy one that you can enjoy.

The reason for me wanting the V6 Challenger and not the V8 isn’t for the sake of the environment or for trying to avoid an EV so if I use less carbon emissions it might be ok it’s mostly because I wouldn’t need all that horsepower, if I could even handle 500+. 300 hp is enough for now and I save money at the pump. 30mpg highway is pretty good and that’s what im looking for at the moment. I get about the same with the Grand Am but it’s possible that I may get more than 30mpg with the Challenger saving even more money since I’m not really a leadfoot and mostly stick to speed limits. We’ll see what happens there. On a side note Dodge is implementing a mild hybrid which is an advanced stop and start system. If you let off the gas to coast the car shuts off while the 48v battery takes over basic functions like power steering, brakes, A.C. or heat, lights and radio. Sounds interesting but is fairly expensive. I doubt the 2020 will have it and may not be employed until 2025 when car companies have to meet certain emission deadlines.

Now like I said I’m all for cleaner emissions saving the environment, blah blah blah. However that doesn’t mean changing to a Tesla or other EV because this is relatively new technology and there’s a big paradigm shift in the way these vehicles are refuled. Most people who don’t own a garage will never see the benefits in owning an EV. And the costs may not drop down anytime soon although Tesla and the other major car makers are trying very hard to make it possible.

They got many issues ahead and I don’t really have anything against EVs. It’s that they’re not ready for prime time because of the different fueling methods and the additional costs that come with them. There’s also a lack of options making it less appealing. It shouldn’t be rushed because we’ll still be here in 50 years still trying to change for the sake of the environment. There’s a lot of theories going around. Yes we should cut our pollution and dependency on fossil fuels but there is plenty of time. There really isn’t any need to toss away billions of dollars all at once or jobs as if everyone switched to EVs there’s going to be a lot of lay offs. Less moving parts is less maintence, less parts being produced and sold in part stores. It’s going to cause another recession. For me I would prefer to keep driving a gas vehicle, there’s always alternative fuels for gas that hasn’t been discovered yet. So I wouldn’t want to own an EV because the technology is too different for an expensive vehicle. And it’s powered by batteries. So it wouldn’t be a very good idea to toss away billions of dollars towards junking gas for EVs.

EVs are good in the sense that not everyone wants to maintain a gas vehicle and it’s an alternative fuel source but for right now, it’s not a replacement for gas as the technology is different and takes longer to refuel, not everyone has access to a charging outlet rated for EV charging. I don’t want an EV and shouldn’t be forced into it and neither should anyone else. This also includes hybrids.

One last thing to note while Tesla has shown that it has incredible acceleration the Dodge Hellcat and Demon (both Challenger trims) is still faster due to more horsepower. The only reason Teslas are quicker in the 0-60 tests is they are heavier, all wheel drive and this reduces wheel slippage. Their stock tires are most likely better as well. Dodge doesn’t put proper racing tires on. There’s a couple of videos on a Tesla vs a Hellcat or Demon where the rematch shows the Dodge winning after some proper tires. So while Teslas are quite impressive in launching power it’s really just dumb luck the massively heavy battery is actually a benefit. Most other EVs don’t have this sort of power.

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